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Kent Busby
Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 7:22 pm:   

just picked up a new project. Is it a 550 or a super 55 the seriel #tag shows 45-0365 and bellow that 88-813519. The photos show it as a 550 the tag says 55 ????
 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 9:06 pm:   

Looks to be a 1960 550. Could be Oliver found some unused serial number tags left over from making Super 55's and decided to use them up. Is there any wear next to where it says 55? Maybe the 0 was worn off.
 

Kent Busby
Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 10:27 pm:   

This unit has no #s on it, non on the seriel # tag , and no fading in the paint to show a #. It has a white grill(550 style) but the seriel #, has me thrown. Did Oliver run a 1/2 year by chance, example being GM built a 1st series 1955 Chev 1/2 ton for 6 months which was the same as the 1954.
 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 10:51 pm:   

Your serial number is 88-813. The 519 at the end of it is a transmission code. Most 550's had this transmission.

The number 45-0365 is a specification number. The first 2 digits, '45' means this tractor is Super 55 or 550.
Super 55 spec numbers started with 15, 25, 35, 45, 55, or 65.
550 spec numbers started with 35, 45, 55, or 65.
The last 4 digits of the specification number do mean something, but I don't know what it is.


Later in the 550 production, specification numbers were replaced by model numbers on the serial number tags. Those model numbers started with either 415 or 515. This 3 digit number was usually followed by a 5 digit number. I do know what 2 of these numbers mean.
 

Kent Busby
Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 11:29 pm:   

It looks like a 550 then. It has a 12 volt system,if this is of any help. Did the battery box or area have side panels. Mine has no covers over the battery box. The rest of the unit is great the tin is all there in good shape and not faded, she runs like a top.Needs rubber but my 10 year old daughter has laid claim to it anyway,these have to be 1 of the cleanest little units oliver built. I live in Alberta , Canada. My job allows me to travel a lot of back roads, and lately I 've come across a lot of Oliver products, Is there any 1 product that every one is in search of. I already have a 770 diesel in my yard that we work daily. SO IF i HAD A HEADS UP ON WHAT ELSE IS BEING LOOKED FOR I MAY BE ABLE TO FIND IT/THEM.
 

dennis johnson
Posted on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 7:47 pm:   

I have been following the conversations on the 550 serial number vs 55. Kent Busby relayed he travels a lot and I need a draw bar assembly for my oliver 550. I can buy a drawbar to use with the 3 point hitch but I have to take off the drawbar each time I want to put the bush hog, blade or other implement on it. I think this assembly comes in 3 or 4 pcs. I have asked around but cant fine one. Kent, if you see one will you please let me know the cost?
Dennis Johnson
North Carolina
 

Kent Busby
Posted on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 8:05 pm:   

Dennis I have a line on 2 more 550s, I will be out that way in about 2 weeks. The 2 that I'm going to view,they tell me have front end loaders. I really don't have a lot of info on them,I will have a look for you,is there any other model that has the same drawbar assembly?
 

dennis johnson
Posted on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 9:01 pm:   

Thanks Kent. I am a new Oliver owner so I dont know if another model drawbar assembly will work or not.
Thanks again.
Dennis
 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 11:20 pm:   

Kent, there were no side panels to cover the battery area. Sounds like you have a fairly complete tractor.
I myself am particularly fond of the mechanical front wheel assist Olivers. (model 1600 or larger). If you see any of these, I'd appreciate hearing about it. I also am starting to get into Oliver implements. Gotta have something for all of those tractors to do, ya know! So, when it comes down to it, I am looking for just about anything Oliver.

Dennis,
Recently I had guy stop by here and we were trying to figure out what drawbars would switch. From doing some measuring, we determined that the main drawbar frame is very close to the measurements of a 66,77,88, Super 66,77,88 and 660,770, and 880 row crop. (Some of the later drawbars had a wider tongue than the ones on a Super 55.)
Although the Super 55 drawbar frame has a different part number than the others, it sure looked like they can be swapped. The only big difference is the links that attach from the drawbar frame to the top link on the Super 55 are different than the support links on the other models. I think that with a little work, the links could be made to work. No guarantees, but the measurements sure make it look like it would work ok.
 

Kent Busby
Posted on Saturday, November 3, 2001 - 1:08 pm:   

found another oldy boys,just picked up a Oliver /hart-parr 70 seriel#301215 Should be a 1937 Hp 70 standard. Its rough.What was on these for tires this has rubber on the front, and red steel tires on the back? Is this correct.
 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted on Saturday, November 3, 2001 - 1:47 pm:   

I know that rubber fronts and steel rears was common on the row crop 70's. I'm not as sure on the Standard models though.
 

Kent Busby
Posted on Saturday, November 3, 2001 - 5:12 pm:   

Chri having fun today,working over cell line thats why the messages are short. Found another toy. Tag says 18-36 Seriel #87022 was there such an animal?? Purchased the 70 The wife will think I've lost my brain again. The seriel # REFERENCE chart does not show 18-36???
 

Kent Busby
Posted on Saturday, November 3, 2001 - 7:10 pm:   

Hi again Chris ,so tell me a story. What kind of value are these units(18-36 and the 70)THE 70 IS TOUGH the rad is missing the tin is good,lights and brackets are there,the fenders are tough,not sure if it is seized the owner says no. the 18-36 is missing the carb, oil pump,mag and rad cap, the engine turns over, the fenders are bad. Help
 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted on Sunday, November 4, 2001 - 9:15 am:   

Kent,
There is a Hart-Parr 18-36, but it is not a row crop configuration. The serial number does fit for that model though. That would make it a 1929 18-36. The 18-36 looked like this pictue:
1836
It will also have the words 'HART-PARR' cast into the top tank of the radiator.

A row crop 70 in the condition you stated would go for about $200-300. With it being a Hart-Parr 70 standard, I would guess it might be worth around $500. They are are definitely something you don't see every day.
I don't know alot about the values of the Hart-Parrs. I've heard of running 18-36's bringing around $3,000 or more. With it needing some important parts, I'm going to guess around the $500 range.
If anybody has more acurate values for these tractors, please let us know.
 

Kent Busby
Posted on Sunday, November 4, 2001 - 4:40 pm:   

Dennis looked at 2 550s today with no luck, both the owners will not part with them, or any of the pieces. I was after a front end loader off them both. Oh well. Will keep you in mind as I travel about the country.
 

Kent Busby
Posted on Sunday, November 4, 2001 - 4:45 pm:   

Thanks Chris that is the same unit the 18-36 that is. The 70 went home today , have not made up my mind on the 18-36. When will I ever get the time to do all these units, may have to sell a few .
 

chris rousseau
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 9:49 am:   

Can someone help me I perchased an oliver
which I believe is a s/55 spec #25-0005 and
serial #52-967-519 gas engine
I'am trying determain the year and if it's s/55.
It has front end loader on it manual tip.
any help is appreciated.
 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 8:46 am:   

Chris R,
You Super 55 is a 1957 model year. The 1957 and 1958 models were the best in my opinion, because they came with a 12 volt electrical system and key start. There were also some modifications to the hydraulic system.
 

Chris Rousseau
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 10:00 am:   

Thanks for the info,wheres the best place to get parts and manuals.
Thanks for you reply,Chris.
 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2001 - 4:40 am:   

You can get manuals by emailing Mary Ann Townsend at hpocacc@fiai.net and letting her know which ones you are looking for.

Parts can be obtained from your local AGCO dealer. There is a dealer locator at their web page. It is http://www.agcocorp.com .
There are also aftermarket parts readily available from several places. You can find some of them on our links page. Korves Oliver and Rick's Agri-Parts would be good places to start. They may even have manuals.

Let us know if you have any other questions.
 

Chris Rousseau
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2001 - 9:26 am:   

Chris,
Again thanks for the reply.

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