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Jasen Dahn
Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 5:20 am:   

I have a 1650 diesel, and recently discovered my bellhousing was cracked along the top. After taking it apart, there was no obvious reason for the breakage, I was expecting to find a mount or something loose. The guy at the junkyard told me that these bellhousings are notorious for cracking, I am wondering if anyone else has this experience with their oliver and if so any rememedies to make sure it doesn't happen again. Thank you in advance for any advice.
 

John Schwiebert
Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 5:49 am:   

Does your tractor have a hydra-power or over under? If so, is your tractor an early one that did not have a screw going through the frame to help support the back of the hydra power or over under unit?
 

Jasen Dahn
Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 10:45 am:   

My tractor has the hydra-power unit. Do you recommend some sort of mounting setup be added to help with a little extra support?
 

John Schwiebert
Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 7:02 pm:   

Do you have the engine out now?
 

Jasen Dahn
Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 8:41 pm:   

No john I don't have the engine out at the moment, I changed the bellhousing last winter and the new one from the junkyard is cracked after about 4 hours of use. I guess I didn't really clarify this is my second one. I sort of believe the stress cracks in the bellhousing from the junkyard may have been present when I got it just not visible. I am planning to purchase a new bellhousing this time around to make sure Im not getting an existing problem. Im just a bit gun shy about using it and breaking another one. I am planning on pulling the engine out a bit after Christmas once deer season winds down. I just want to make sure Im overlooking the reason for the breakage.
 

M_lappin
Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 10:21 pm:   

Some of our other Olivers have a 3/4 bolt up thru the bottom of the belly pan to support the weight of the hydra shift, over/under. Any tractors we buy that don't have it get one as sone as possible.
 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted on Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 10:35 pm:   

Check for wear in the chain coupler. If the teeth are worn, the chain can slide around a bit and 'bunch up' on one side of the sprockets, throwing the thing out of balance. A new chain can help, but new sprockets are always a good idea if there is any wear in that area.

One more thing to check while you have it out. There was a change in output shafts on the hydra-power units. The old style could come loose, allowing the shaft to wobble in the bearings. This wobbling can cause quit a bit of vibration. The old shaft is the same size from one end of the splines to the other. The new one has a shoulder for the front bearing to set against. The new style will also have a spacer and shim pack between the bearings on the output shaft.

Good luck on the deer, we have plenty here if you need any.
 

Geoffrey Heck (Oliverdude)
Posted on Friday, October 8, 2004 - 11:08 pm:   

Chris,
You don't have any turkeys up ther do you? HA! The turkeys here are harder on the crops than deer, but I'm doing my part to thin them out.
 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted on Friday, October 8, 2004 - 11:32 pm:   

5 years ago, we didn't see hardly any turkeys. Now you can't go to the field with out seeing a dozen or more. I call the deer "rats with antlers" and the turkeys are rapidly becoming "rats with wings". I bet they taste good though.... :-)
 

Geoffrey Heck (Oliverdude)
Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 3:34 pm:   

Sure Do! Jerky is the best way to have it.

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