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Stuart
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 12:01 pm:   

I need to split my Super 55 and repair the PTO clutch and an oils seal from the tranny. I want to do this myself, if I can. I dont have an overhead hoist or crane in the shop. The manual calls for a chain hoist or crane around the engine, is this necessary? Can both sides be supported from the bottom?

Any other good ideas for a successful split.

Incidently, here is what I am trying to find out whats wrong. I hooked up a tiller to the PTO yesterday, and made one pass in the garden and then smoke was evident and the PTO was not working well at all, no power, once it hit the soil it stopped. Slipping? There is likely some tranny oil in that dry clutch area.

Thanks

Stuart



 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 9:03 pm:   

I have done the split with both sides supported from the bottom. For the front half, get a couple of pieces of wood and wedge them inbetween the frame and the front axle. This will keep the front half from tipping on you. When supporting the front, be careful not to lift against the oil pan and dent it. One other thing I do is to get a couple of long 5/8 inch bolts and cut the heads off, and the put one on each side where the front frame is bolted to the rear with 5/8 inch bolts. These headless bolts act as guides and help with lining everything back up when sliding it together.

Smoke is usually a bad sign. Sounds like you will need new clutch discs in the PTO clutch. Replace any seals that you can get to while in there. It's alot easier than wishing that you had.
 

Stuart
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 8:45 am:   

Chris,
I took off the tiller to investigate some more. When I started the tractor, the PTO was on and I couldnt turn it off with the lever. And the lever to turn it on and off was not proper, when it was working well, it would have a noce click at the end of the throw when it was set. Not now, its all goofy feeling. What do you think?
 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 11:20 pm:   

Sounds like the clutch discs got hot. The steel plates will warp, creating enough drag to keep it turning under a light load, but the fiber discs get so worn that it won't snap and lock in. You could tighten the PTO clutch, but it will drag even more when in the off position. Plus the heat from it slipping gets the rubber in the seals hot, and they get stiff and won't seal any more.

To get an idea as to prices for parts, check out www.korvesoliver.com
You are looking at splitting the tractor, and putting new PTO discs and seals in. It really isn't too bad. There is one special tool used to remove a spanner nut that holds the PTO clutch drum on, but most guys end up fabricating their own.
 

SL
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 7:21 pm:   

Chris, I am trying to find the special awatonna spanner wrench but cant. Its the one you mention to take off the pto clutch spider. Can you describe a good way to build such a wrench to handle lots of troque?
 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 11:42 pm:   

Take a piece of steel pipe that is the diameter of the spanner nut. Cut or grind away steel to leave 4 tabs that will engage the 4 slots on the nut. Then drill a hole through both sides of the other end of the pipe. You can then use a long punch or rod of some kind to turn the spanner wrench. I'll take a picture of one that I have and post it here.

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