| Author | Message | ||
     Rob Johnston |
Super 88 Row Crop diesel. Working on the starter, I knew better than to work on it without disconnecting the battery but I was in a hurry and did it anyway. I failed to see the isulation was missing on the cable going to the starter. I conveniently grounded out the cable on the fuel line going from the pump to the #6 injector and burned right through the line.  It was quite a light show, with some fire thrown in for good measure. I checked with the local dealer and found prices for a new line to be $60 to $100, depending on engine block #. My question is would there be anything wrong with repairing the line by taking out some of the bends (to gain some length), cutting out the bad part and using a compression fitting? Second question, are there any trade secrets I need to know when I go to reinstall the replacement line? Is there a bleeding process or anything like that? Sorry for the ignorance, I'm a body shop mgr so my mechanical skills are slightly lacking. Also, just for laughs, this is my mother-in-law's tractor and I was supposedly doing her a favor by "fixing" the starter. Thanks in advance, Rob | ||
| Chris Losey (Admin) |
I wouldn't recommend shortening the line. Bending the line without cracking it or collapsing the hole might prove to be very difficult. Plus the lines have that extra length to allow for expansion and contraction, and to dampen any vibration in the line by acting like a spring. You could try replacing it with a used line. This would be cheaper than new, but should work fine, as long as the line is good. Contact Maibach's at http://agcocorpdealers.com/MAIBACH/ or call them at 330-939-4192. They have many salvage tractors and should be able to get you going. For bleeding the line, just attach it at both ends, but only tighten the end at the injection pump. Start the tractor, (it will miss on number 6 because the of the line being loose) and when fuel starts squirting out around the nut, tighten it the rest of the way. Number 6 should start firing now. If it doesn't, loosen the line at the injector again and let it bleed a little more, and then tighten again. You didn't say, did you fix the starter problem? A happy mother-in-law makes for a happy wife!! | ||
| Rob Johnston |
Hi Chris, Thanks for the advice, even though it wasn't exactly what I wanted to hear. I will try Maibachs if I run out of options locally. I'm going to stop at the local NAPA store this afternoon and see if they have any suggestions. I need to fix this soon, as the barn is quickly filling up with horse manure. :P I did fix the immediate (sp?) problem with the starter, which was a spider's nest and egg sac inside the housing which prevented the starter lever from contacting the copper plate. I did notice that the copper plate is almost worn through and need to be replaced. Another part to hunt down or make. BTW, this is a great site. I appreciate being able to come here for help. I'll be here a lot more in the future, as a restoration for the Oliver is bound to happen in the next few years. Maybe I'll even meet up with you folks at a Michigan Oliver event! It sure looks like a lot of fun. Rob | ||
| Chris Losey (Admin) |
Rob, Thanks for the kind words. If you wanted to have a lot of fun, you should have been at the Oliver Gang Halloween party last Saturday. Our hosts the Browns let us wander through their barns and had several fun games for everybody to play. They did a fantastic job, and pictures from the event will be going in the photo album as soon as I get a chance to do it. Our Spring Fling is going to be in Michigan, near Owosso. We have just a few details to hammer out and then I'll post the information about it on the events page. Be sure to bring the Mrs. and she can ride to Bronner's Christmas land in Frankenmuth with the other Oliver Gang ladies. Seeing as how you are the first person to post a picture on this message board (besides me), how 'bout you post a picture of the rest of the tractor that the injection line goes to? I'm sure it will make your mother-in-law happy. | ||
| Rob Johnston |
I'm still trying to deal with the burned through fuel line. Maibach's didn't have the line I needed.  According to the local AGCO dealer (Pell's, Fremont MI) there are three different options for this line depending on engine serial number. (I'm dealing with an 88 Diesel Row Crop.) He said the # would be on the right rear flange of the engine. I looked and can't find it. Does anybody else have a suggestion as to where to find it? Do I have to remove anything to find it? I found the casting # on the left side of the block, and that does them no good. Pics of engine are here (http://www.bridge-view.net/images/oliver/MVC-009F.JPG) and here (http://www.bridge-view.net/images/oliver/MVC-017F.JPG) if that helps. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Rob | ||
| Chris Losey (Admin) |
Boy, I'm going to have to look at one of mine tomorrow to be sure, but I believe the serial number is on the right side front of the engine where the block protudes for the cam gear. I could be wrong though. I'll let you know what I find. Seeing as you are a fellow Michigander, try calling Stamm Equipment at 262-792-6204 or email them at stammeq@triton.net and see if they have used one. They are located in Wayland. | ||
| Rob Johnston |
I found the serial # with some help from oleblu over at the hpoca.org forum: http://server798.dnslive.net/~hartparr/forum/viewthread.php?tid=35 The new line is ordered and will be here tomorrow or Friday.  Thanks for the lead on Stamm Equipment, I'll remember that for future reference. This has turned into more of a time issue than money issue so I ordered a new part. Also, if anybody else is following this post anymore, I've found out that the injector lines are all the same length; therefore, shortening a damaged line is not recommended. Chris, thanks for your help! | ||
| Chris Losey (Admin) |
Glad that oleblu was able to help you, because I forgot to look today. Also glad to hear you got the line ordered ok. Glad I could help. |
