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Max W Olds
Posted From: 72.59.78.119
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 8:59 am:   

i have a set up manual but it dosent tell me about the tail wheel i think there is a bolt broke on the lift mech because it sets in the swivel bracket for the tail wheel second what size cylinder do i need for it this is a 2 bottom plow i bought at a acution for 70.00 help
 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted From: 72.171.0.141
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 2:27 pm:   

I'm not sure I follow where the broken bolt is that you are talking about, but the you'll want to use a 8 inch stroke cylinder, which is the standard length for farm cylinders. For the bore: 2 1/2, or 3 inch should be fine. Those plows aren't very hard to lift. You can go bigger, but it will slow down the lift rate since it takes more oil to fill a bigger cylinder.
 

Max W Olds
Posted From: 72.59.70.34
Posted on Wednesday, October 1, 2008 - 8:08 am:   

Chris thanks for the fast responce do you know where i could get a tail wheel break down or a good look at it. The area iam talking about is the casting with the road lock where the lift lever slides on the tail wheel casting now it slips into the casting because it is shaped like a c channel made into the casting. The distance between my cylinder eyes is 26 inchs in the lock position is this right also do i have to go that big on the cylinder or can i go smaller. thanks again
 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted From: 67.142.130.31
Posted on Wednesday, October 1, 2008 - 8:57 am:   

It sounds like that tail wheel casting may be worn out. I don't recall there being a c channel, probably years of wear have made it. I've got a couple of 4240 plows, I'll take a look at them and see what mine look like.

You definitely won't need a 4 inch diameter cylinder, I would think 2 inch would be enough for a plow that small. It can vary depending on how much hydraulic pressure your tractor makes.

26 inches sounds about right for the locked position, which is the raised position. When I mentioned 8 inches, that is the distance that the cylinder can extend or retract. The overall length of the cylinder can vary some based on manufacturers. Most agricultural equipment is designed to use an eight inch stroke cylinder, so finding one shouldn't be too hard.
 

Max W Olds
Posted From: 68.30.108.118
Posted on Wednesday, October 1, 2008 - 1:06 pm:   

Chris thanks again could you take a couple pitcures of it so i could check mine against yours
 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted From: 67.142.130.36
Posted on Thursday, October 2, 2008 - 9:11 am:   

Max,

I combined the other topics with this thread to keep them together. You can add a message by entering it in the message box below.

I'll try to get a picture of that tail wheel piece and post it soon.
 

Max W Olds
Posted From: 68.30.98.129
Posted on Thursday, October 2, 2008 - 11:18 am:   

thanks
 

90%RET'D
Posted From: 76.208.51.0
Posted on Thursday, October 2, 2008 - 4:51 pm:   

Just for the record, std. ASABE cyl. dimensions:
retracted: 20 1/8th +/- 1/8 inches
extended: 28 1/8th +/- 1/8 inches
one inch dia. pins

Harry D.
 

Max W Olds
Posted From: 68.29.36.103
Posted on Sunday, October 5, 2008 - 8:01 am:   

Thanks Harry D
 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted From: 67.142.130.49
Posted on Sunday, October 5, 2008 - 9:47 am:   

Max,

I didn't have the camera with me, but I looked at my plow. The tailwheel casting has U shaped bracket attached to it. A pin goes through that cross ways, and on the pin is a bushing. The lift arm pivots against this bushing, which can turn on the pin, preventing wear. If you have wear into the casting, then that pin must be missing. I'll try to get out there with the camera and get a picture to illustrate.
 

Chris Losey (Admin)
Posted From: 67.142.130.31
Posted on Sunday, October 5, 2008 - 12:18 pm:   

Max,

Here's a picture of the tail wheel looking straight down on it.

tailwheel

Here's one from the side.

side

If that casting is broke, you're not going to find a new one. You'll either have to weld the old one, or find a used one.

Hope this helps.
 

Max W Olds
Posted From: 70.8.72.3
Posted on Monday, October 6, 2008 - 7:59 am:   

Chris and Harry thanks for all the info and pictures and the pin and bushing is missing the casting is in fine shape ill keep in touch and let you know how it plows next spring when i get it up and going oh nice tennies Max
 

Max W Olds
Posted From: 70.8.72.3
Posted on Monday, October 6, 2008 - 8:04 am:   

Chris and Harry thanks for all the info and the pin and bushins is missing but the casting is fine ill keep in touch next spring and let you know how it plows after i get it up and going chris nice tennie,s Max

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