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     Lynn Davis Posted From: 74.251.59.157 |
Well, not the cylinder, but the piston rod. I dug up a stump today and now I have a problem. I don't know how or when I bent the croud (dipper stick) rod, but it has a definite downward bend when extended. My shop said it couldn't be straightened, but I'm going to try. I'll put it on a press next week and find out. Just in case, I need to ask if there are any out there for sale. Part #197 289 AS | ||
| Chris Losey (Admin) Posted From: 67.142.130.42 |
I just replaced the same cylinder on my 1600, same part number and everything. I looked for a new one under the original part number, and for a used one, with no luck. I took the cylinder to an industrial repair shop that can make new ones, and they said that the barrel was scored, the rod needed re-chromed, and that basically they needed to build me a new one to the tune of $1,753. I doubted their assessment of its condition, as the rod looked fine to me and didn't leak. I thought that was a bit pricey, so I got looking on the internet and I found a couple of cylinders that would work. The place I found is called Dalton Bearing and Hydraulic, and the one I ended up buying can be seen at this link: http://stores.daltonhydraulic.com/-strse-527/Welded-Cross-dsh-Tube-Prince-Hydrau lic/Detail.bok This cylinder dropped right into my 1600 with a couple of what I feel were minor exceptions. First, it was close to 2 inches to long. When fully contracted, it doesn't seem to have any ill effects, but fully extended the bucket can hit the boom arm, and the cylinder tube comes against the top of the boom arm, which under the wrong circumstances could cause the rod to bend. I only bring the dipper arm in that close for transport, so I don't see it being a problem, but I might make a stop plate of some kind just to be safe. The second thing is it has pipe thread fittings, which wasn't a big deal. I put some 90 degree swivel adapters in the ports, and had to make a new hose to reach the rod end of the cylinder. I took it out and did some digging, and it worked great. It appears to be built very well with good professional welds. Paint it yellow and it's hard to tell it from an original. I had it 2 days after I ordered it for less than $450, delivered. The other one is at the same place, but is a brand name - Prince. http://stores.daltonhydraulic.com/-strse-179/Welded-Cross-dsh-Tube-Prince-Hydrau lic/Detail.bok This one is just about the perfect length, and matches all of the specs except it has 1.25" inch pins, and your backhoe should have 1.5" pins like mine. I contemplated buying the Prince and having the holes bored the extra 1/4 inch, but between that and the higher price of the Prince, I decide to go with the first one. So far so good. I also have the remains of my original cylinder, I could sell you the rod from that one. I have to go pick it up yet, but I can post pictures of it so you can see what condition it is in. If you decide to buy a new one, I would be interested in buying your old one, as between that and what I have, I could make a good cylinder. | ||
| Lynn Davis Posted From: 74.251.59.157 |
Chris, I'll keep you informed. I said "bent", which is more like "bowed" about 1". I talked to a guy today who said "no problem with straightening it". I have it off. I've figured out how I bent it. With the bucket fully extended, I was dropping the bucket on the extracted stump to knock the dirt off. This put all of the leverage on the cylinder. I was able to retract the bucket, but the cylinder was tight as the piston rod extended. I then saw that the rod was bent downward. All of this in my own back yard. The wife reminded me that I could have hired it done cheaper. | ||
| Lynn Davis Posted From: 70.152.105.244 |
Chris, thanks for your suggestions and offer to "trade cylinders". As it ended up, my rod could not be satisfactorily straightened. My shop replaced the rod and converted the packing from the old "V" style to whatever it is that they use now. All of this for $375. Chris, for future reference, I had found a replacement cylinder from www.HerculesUS.com that I could have bought through another shop at cost for $212.24 plus shipping and tax. (look under components) I still would have had to extend the hydraulic hose etc. so I decided to go with the rebuild. Again, thanks...Lynn |
