| Author | Message | ||
     fpf |
what engines were used in which oliver combines? | ||
| M_lappin (M_lappin) |
I know our 535 had the flathead industrial six from chrysler and maybe the 525 had the same and I believe the 545 had a Chrysler 318 in them, can't guarentee the last but I believe that is what Father told me one time. | ||
| John Schwiebert |
Do you have a specific model in mind? This gets a little tricky. The gas engines were Chrysler. The 525 were all L-head engine made in Canad. They are slightly different than an American Chrysler for some parts and other parts not. They are 251 Cubic inches. The 535 & 545 use the same engine but it is a 265 cubic inch engine and the last year of the flat head they were American engines. 318 V-8 engines were an option ealrly on in the 545 and later on in the 535. They are also the early Chrysler 318 engines with the "sawtooth" valve covers" The 5555 used a 318 at first and then used a 400 Cubic inch engine. The 535 & 545 were also availabe with a 354 Perkins diesel. Does that help any? | ||
| Harry Deckler |
I remember the same way as John S. does on the 500 series machines. Also if I remember correctly, prior machines, the 35 and 40 self propelled as well as the model 25 used Continetal F-226 engines. The 9700 rotary used a 640 cu/in. Perkins diesel, 354 Perkins in the 7300. Hope this helps. | ||
| fpf |
thanks!! for the info. on the combine engines, it was very helpful. | ||
| M_lappin (M_lappin) |
Never new there was a Canadian version of the flathead. Always just went to the local auto parts store and asked for parts on a Chrysler flat head six. Maybe differences were internal, bearings, pistons rods, and what not? | ||
| John Schwiebert |
The head gasket is different for one thing. I had to grind valves one time on an early 535 and the owner went to church with the local Plymouth dealer who had a lot of old parts. He fixed me up with valves out of a 52 or 53 Chrysler. A Canadian who worked for a Cockshutt dealer and then for Dana when I did told me they were about 1 inch longer than a comparable American engine. They came out with a parts bulletin for the last year of the 535. Wait till I get back to the states and I can look it up | ||
| Marty Lappin (M_lappin) |
It would be wonderful if you could, seem to remember that I asked for headgasket for the application instead of engine. Of course we don't have the 535 anymore, but we have a Buckeye tracked trencher with the same engine in it. Might be useful to know the differences. If the gasser ever gave up Father wonders about putting a engine out of a Super 88 in it. | ||
| John Schwiebert |
Those Buckeye trenchers were built in my neighborhood. This guy that I got the valves for got me a maniold for one of those engines a few years ago. There are a few around here. This was the great swamp. Is your machine a model 301 or 302? | ||
| fpf |
Curious, why didn'nt Oliver use their tractor engines in their combines? They,re very good engines! | ||
| H. Deckler |
Seems that I heard back then that the flat head Continential and Chrysler engines were less costly and lighter weight than the Olive/Waukashaw engines. On a combine they ran at a constant speed and were not lugged at low RPM like a tractor so they held up pretty well. | ||
| Marty Lappin (M_lappin) |
I want to say it is a 301. I would check it out but is over to one of my cousins under a leanto right now waiting for the crop to come off so we can get some muck tiled for him. Ours has had several updates though and sometimes the original manual is next to worthless. | ||
| Superpicker |
John, If I am not mistaken weren't those Buckeye trenchers built near Celina? I am about 35 miles southwest of Celina. Superpicker | ||
| 90%ret'd |
Buckeye Ditchers were built in Findlay Ohio. I worked there in 1956. At that time the factory was owned by Gar-Wood Industries and along with ditchers, they were building cranes for both domestic and military at the Findlay plant. | ||
| Marty Lappin (M_lappin) |
Remember seeing the Gar Wood somewhere on either the trencher or the manual. And now, if I remember right the parts seem to come out of a place in Celina. | ||
| 90%ret'd |
There was a shop [supplier] in the Celina area that, if my memory is correct, sold or rebuilt track and ditcher parts and repairs. We lived in Celina and I worked at New Idea at Coldwater 20 years ago but time hasnt't helped my memory at all. | ||
| Marty Lappin (M_lappin) |
Yah the previous owner took it to somewhere in Celina and had the wheel completely rebuilt several years before we bought it from him. Seems like the same shop that done repairs are also fabbing most of the parts now. They have quite a few in stock and can make what they don't have. |
